Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Puppy with sudden patches ????

My daughters puppy just come to stay with us about 2wks ago and before that was living in a apartment, now it runs all over our big yard and out of no where has started to get patches where she is losing her hair and kind of looks like a skin rash, I dont really have the money to go and spend three or four hundred dollars at the vet and from past visits it alway runs that, I dont want the puppy to get sick or lose all of its hair though, anybody have any idea whats wrong.|||The hairloss could be due to any of the following problems; the dog might be getting mange, it could have hotspots, or fleas.|||go to the vet.... how would u feel if u were super sick and no one bothered to take u???!!!|||Sounds like mange. I am sorry to say this to you, but when you decide to get a pet you have to take the good with the bad. You decided to take on the resposibility for the care of that pet--now do the right thing and take him to the vet.|||It could be ring worm or mange. Lots of people call Demodex (sp?) puppy mange. Unfortunately only a vet can diagnose which one it is.





Good luck|||one of our dogs gets that too. he only get its certain times of the year though- around summer. we are pretty sure that the new grass growing in makes his skin itchy/irritated, which makes him start licking it. does it look sort of like a sore? if its the same thing that our dog has, its not going to kill him. [granted he doesnt get some crazy infection from it.] we took him to the vet a while ago, and got this spray stuff. he hates it like crazy [im guessing it stings], but it takes away the pain and allows it to heal.





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is the puppy just losing the fur around the 'rashes?' or is it everywhere? cause if it is everywhere, then you can ignore this answer. =P|||Possible demodectic mange, ringworm, or some type of allergy (fleas, topical). Best to have your vet take a look, ringworm is transmittable to humans.|||I hate to say this, and I don't say it to be rude, but if you can't afford vet bills, you can't afford a dog. Just like with kids, you can't say "You have painful skin issues? Too bad, I can't afford the doctor's bills." It probably has mange or some other contagious, and painful infection and if untreated, it will get worse. Your dog is in pain and not being treated. That is punishable as animal cruelty if you do not get care for your dog.|||it sounds like mange or a fungile disease. there is a very INEXPENSIVE medicene that clears anything that has to do with fungus and is a wound dressing used to treat ringworm, skin abrasions and surface wounds. The name of it is "Blu-Kote. dont worry its supposed to make the skin blue so that u can see where u are spraying. it works on horses, dogs, cattle, etc. I used it on my horse and it had immediate results, try it! the bottles average about $9.|||It could be a form of mange or even allergies. Only a vet can diagnose what is wrong with the dog. A checkup should not run hundreds of dollars and you can always ask how much they charge for an office visit when you call to make the appointment.|||I have a strong feeling your daughter's dog has a slight to mild case of this: Please read below on the article about demodectic mange. It explains in detail. I have a tremendous amount of experience with animals. I have had many different breeds but favor the miniature pinschers. After getting our first one in 2002, we wanted one more and decided to breed our female. WE talked it over with our vet and used a stud from the breeder we purchased her from when she was almost two years old. She ended up having seven pups. Needless to say we started to breed them . I had three litters and decided that I became way too emotionally attached to every single puppy and was extremely depressed and worried every time someone came to buy one. I asked them so many questions to make sure that they were going to a good home. I even went to the majority of the homes


I couldn't handle it. I still miss them all. Long Story short we gave one to my mother-in-law that was a male and we had two females left. I loved him so much and he loved me. I could have got him fixed I guess, but there lab had died and I figured I would at least know he was taken care of and would still get to see him. It took a long time for the two of us "me and the dog to get used to the idea that he lived with them and not me.


He somehow contracted this below "read article and the vet said it more than likely was brought on by stress/depression and his immune system droped causing the mites to take control of him. IThey had already taken him to a vet which charged them outrageously. I told them that I wanted to take him for a second opinion with the vet that I use. He did a skin scrap and charged me $65.00 and that was for the scraping of his skin, the diagnosis of demodedtic mange, and the medicine. If you have a vet, before taking him call around and find out how much it would cost for a scraping of his skin for mites. Take the article below. Some vets just want to take your money and charge outrageous prices . My mother- in- laws vet charged $300.00 for the same treatment. It doesn't cost that much if you shop around in your area and find a good, caring, truthful vet that honestly cares about you and your pet. Oh, by the way I hope you do find one because I was very lucky. Sometimes my vet will not even charge me because I have brought him so much business. The follow up treatments were free. They put him on ivermectin "liquid form" for 30 days and he is fine now, All hair has completely grown back .


Hope this helps you!!!





Here is an article that will help if this is what he has, you can also go to yahoo.com and type in hair loss or demodectic mange. There are many articles on this subject that are very helpful.


See Article Below!!!








Demodectic Mange





by Jennie Bullock





Demodectic mange is the result of Demodex canis, a microscopic mite multiplying out of control. Most dogs have demodex mites on their skin in small numbers. These mites are acquired by puppies shortly after birth, from their mother.


The causative factors as to why some dogs develope demodectic mange while other dogs do not is not fully understood. The tendancy to be suseptible to demodectic mange appears to be hereditary. It is known that dogs with demodectic mange have an immune system defect. It is this defect that appears to be inherited, making the pup unable to keep the demodex mites under control.


Demodectic mange occurs in one of two forms. The first form is the localized form. This form most often appears in dogs under 1 year of age. The first sign is a thinning of hair around the eyelids, the lips, the corners of the mouth and the front legs. The dog has a moth-eaten appearance. The patches of hair loss can progress into circles of approximately one inch in diameter (occasionally confused with ringworm). Mite removal/reduction normally consists of cleansing shampoos, antibiotic therapy, and immune stimulants. Not all young animals that experience demodicosis are immunologically impaired for life. A significant percentage will "self cure" as their immune system matures. This maturity normally takes place between the ages of 8 months and 3 years, depending on the breed of dog.


During treatment it is critical that the dog is making continuous improvement. If the animal has 5 or more patches, or is not showing a marked improvement; the demodex could be progressing into the generalized form.


The generalized form is the second presentation type of this condition. Generalized demodex can begin as a localized case or can present itself as a sudden onset. Numerous patches appear on the head, legs, and trunk. These patches continuously spread developing into large areas of hair loss. The hair follicles become congested with debris and mites. The breakdown of the skin leads to the formation of sores, with crusting and draining sinus tracts.


Treatment of dogs experiencing generalized demodex can be very prolonged. The reponse to treatment is slow and often requires frequent changes in the medication. In spite of the number of mite removal dips, topical ointments and antibiotics availale a cure is not always possible. Generalized demodectic mange must be treated under veterinary supervision.


Older dogs that develop demodectic mange (in either form) should be screened for underlying causative factors in immune system dysfunction. Diseases such as diabetes, cancer or Cushing's disease can all impact therapy.


Dogs treated for generalized demodectic mange should be neutered.





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Mangy mutt! is a curse uttered when Fido steals the roast or eats the garage door, or it's a sad lament over the condition of a dog whose skin is a mess. Kids are cautioned not to touch a mangy dog for fear that the mange will ooze from the hapless pooch to the child and cause his skin to rot and his hair to fall out.





These myths about mange reach gigantic proportions causing fear to strike in the hearts of dog owners. Mange? Not my dog!





But it could well be your dog.





Mange comes in three varieties: Demodectic, Cheyletiella and Sarcoptic. It is caused by different species of mites, tiny eight-legged critters related to spiders.








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Demodectic Mange


Demodectic mange is caused by Demodex canis, a tiny mite that cannot be seen without the aid of a microscope. This mange strikes puppies from three to 12 months old.





The demodex mite is commonly present in the pores of puppy skin and usually does not cause symptoms, and it not at all certain what causes them to activate. The mites can produce a substance that lowers the dog's resistance to them and make use of an opportunity to multiply.





It's also possible that some lines of purebred dogs carry lowered resistance to the mites, and that stress can trigger an active infestation. In any case, demodectic mange symptoms include thinning of the hair around the eyes and mouth and on the front legs that evolves into patches of hair loss approximately one inch in diameter. This mange may correct itself within three months or may require treatment.





However, demodectic mange can also begin as a localized infestation and develop into a generalized case with multiple hair-loss sites on the dog's head, legs, and body. This is a far more serious condition and requires veterinary attention. The dog's skin is sore, crusty, and oozing; the hair follicles are clogged with mites and debris. Treatment is extended and requires bathing in medicated shampoo and application of an insecticide to kill the mites.








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Cheyletiella mange


Cheyletiella mange is also known as walking dandruff. It affects puppies and is caused by a large reddish mite that can be seen under a magnifying glass. This mange is identified by the dandruff dusting that occurs over the dog's head, neck, and back.





Walking dandruff is highly contagious but short-lived. It causes mild itching. The mite that causes the mange dies a short time after leaving the host.








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Sarcoptic mange


Sarcoptic mange, also known as scabies, is caused by a microscopic mite. The female mite causes the characteristic intense itching as they burrow under the skin to lay their eggs. The eggs hatch in a few days, develop into adults, and begin laying their own eggs in less than three weeks.





Dogs with scabies dig and bite at themselves with great ferocity. Their skin reacts with oozing sores, and secondary infection may set in, requiring treatment with an antibiotic in addition to treatment for the mites. Unfortunately, the sarcoptic mange mite can be difficult to find in skin scrapings, and unless the veterinarian parts the hair and carefully examines the bare skin for the characteristic pin-point bite marks, diagnosis is difficult. Furthermore, the presence of a secondary skin infection can hamper the search for the mite bite marks.





Telltale signs of sarcoptic mange are crusty ear tips, fierce itching, and hair loss, particularly on the ears, elbows, legs, and face in the early stages. Later on, the hair loss spreads throughout the body.





Sarcoptic mange is contagious to canines and humans. If the dogs share sleeping places or if the infected dog sleeps on beds or furniture, everyone will begin scratching. It is not unheard of for the family dog to infest the kids, the kids to infest their playmates, and the playmates to infest their pets and parents with scabies. Fortunately scabies in humans is self-limiting, that is the mite can burrow under the skin and cause itching, but cannot complete its life cycle on humans and dies within a few weeks.





Veterinarians now use Ivermectin in two doses, two weeks apart, to kill the mites. They may also prescribe steroids for short-term use to relieve the itching until the mites begin to die off and give the dog some relief. Itching usually begins to subside within a few days of the first dose of Ivermectin.





Canine skin damaged by sarcoptic mange and secondary skin infections can take weeks or months to recover, depending on the scope of the problems. Frequent medicated baths may be necessary to soothe irritated skin.





Mange damage can mimic that caused by other skin conditions, including autoimmune diseases, bacterial infections secondary to flea allergies, and contact dermatitis, making it impossible for the pet owner to diagnose with any success. If your dog suffers from irritated, itchy skin, make an appointment with the veterinarian. Early diagnosis of any of these problems will give you a head start on a cure and will be less uncomfortable for the dog and your wallet.





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Good Luck, and please take the puppy to the vet as soon as possible!!!|||if the dog is biting or scratching at the rashes and that's what is making the hair fall out then it may be hotspots or mange. my dog Buster got hotspots all the time but he had skin cancer, too. so if it happens a lot you should make sure the dog doesn't have skin cancer. just take the poor dog to the vet!|||Fleas|||YOUR DOG IS GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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